This is a transcription from an audio
recording on CD. See Fadded Discs & Wendy Connors at the end of the case
WI – Witness’s Initials
RG – Interviewer – Robert
RG - Mr. (Witness’s Name), this is Bob Gribble
of Phenomena Research in Seattle. We understand that you
saw something here the other night. We were wondering if we could get a
description of your experience.
WI - Yes. Eight thirty in the morning. I live at… on Anderson Island.
RG - Yes
WI – and were up… right on the edge of a hundred and
sixty foot cliff above the water. And I have an unobstructed view of at least
180 degrees, from my viewpoint and all of a sudden I saw this object coming
from the northeast…do you know where Ketron Island
RG - Yes
WI – Oh… OK. It was coming from Ketron Island,
along that shore, which is… belongs to… its part of Lewis
reservation1…you know? It was way out by that shore… and it
was coming down the sound at quite a clip…fast clip. And this was a half moon
object, not a flying saucer type.
RG - Yes
WI – But it was half moon, and it was quite thick in
the front part of it. You know.
RG - Yes
WI - In other words it was half-moon and just …then it
was going that… forward in that direction, and it was just skimming on top of
the water an it dove into the water, and disappeared… made a big…
RG – Appears we were disconnected.
WI – (Laughter) Yes I guess we did…after all this
program. Incidentally I’ll try to start this all over again. That it was
coming from the Ketron
Island area, along the
far shore, an I could see everything clear beyond… Nisqually Flats. You know
where that is?
RG - Yes
WI – It came along and it probably was even with
Dupont, but it dove into the water. You know where Dupont is?
RG – No…I don’t think so.
WI – Well Dupont is right across from where I live.
RG – OK
WI – OK. And I live on Cole
RG – Right
WI – OK
RG – Right
WI – All right. When it got just about to Dupont, it
dove into the water and left a big foam spray like deal, when it went into
RG - Yes
WI – And it disappeared. And I kept looking and
wondering what the heck it was, you know, and pretty soon, ah maybe… a… six
seconds or so, it surfaced again, and skimmed… on top of the water, oh… about
a hundred feet above the water, and it continued on for quite a ways, and
then when it got to approximately even with Nisqually flats, it dove into the
water again and I lost… I couldn’t see it again after that. If it came up
again, I don’t know. It disappeared, and I couldn’t see anything beyond that
point. That’s what a… that’s my version of the whole thing.
RG – I see. What was…approximately, what was the time
lapse from the time you first saw it till it just disappeared the last time.
WI – Oh it was… about… not over two minutes. It was
very fast; it was moving at quite a speed, and just a… darndest thing I ever
saw in my life. I can’t… I was just
really… I always keep binoculars right by the window, and we are leaving for Mexico for
three months… in a couple of days, and we had loaded them in our motor
home. That’s hindsight; I might have
gotten a better view of it with our binoculars. But it was very clear and it
was very…there was no… there wasn’t any doubt about what I saw.
RG – Yes. Now your side of the island, is that facing
west, I mean east.
WI – No. It’s facing south-
RG – South. Due south
WI – Due south
RG – OK. And the weather was fairly good then?
WI – Yes. The weather was clear, and the water was
smooth, there wasn’t a ripple on the water. It was just like glass.
RG – Yes. Now you were observing this from indoors.
WI – From indoors. Yes
RG – I see.
WI – We have sixteen feet of glass here, and ah… on the
front of our home. And we have… like I said we have an unobstructed view for
at least 180 degrees.
RG – I see. Were there any ships or boats on the water
at the time?
WI – Not at the time. There wasn’t a boat or ship in
sight, and shortly after that, there was a lot of boats.
RG – I see.
WI – But ah…but where they were at this time I can’t
figure out, but right after that there were more boats than I had seen since
RG – I see. Well then somebody in authority probably
heard about that also, and sent boats out.
WI – Lot of boats, lot
of boats. It just seamed like they just were swarming shortly after that.
RG – Would that be in the area where this thing finally
went into the water and didn’t come out again?
WI – Yes. Ah ha. Yeah. And ah…do you know where the…
well Nisqually Flats are, and the point…on south… the southern point of
Anderson Island is?
RG – Yes. I know of the island. Yes
WI – Well… I heard from friends of mine… they go
fishing a lot, that there were probably 50 boats out there… later, after that
ah… but they were all fishing of course. They weren’t looking for what I saw.
RG – Yes. Now I want to get a confirmation of the date.
Was that Sunday morning or Monday morning?
WI – No that was Saturday
RG – Saturday morning, the 18th
WI – Saturday morning, yeah the 18th at
8:30, exactly 8:30 in the morning. My wife wasn’t up yet… I was… hollered at
her but the time she got there it was of course gone.
RG – Of course you… have you heard any discussion among
your friends or neighbors about seeing it at all?
WI – No. I told my… I wasn’t even going to report it
because I figured people wouldn’t believe me anyway. So…and…but some of our
friends said I should report it, that’s how come I reported it.
RG – I see. Well let’s see… and then…
WI – It was really… It was really… quite exciting or
whatever you want to call it.
RG – Yes. I know what you mean (Laughter from both).
Did you notice any aircraft in the area, later?
WI – No we didn’t have any aircraft in the area at the
time or afterwards... at all. No. I’m sure it wasn’t an airplane, because it
was a big object, I’d say it was…Oh… maybe the front of it was 75 feet long…
in this half moon deal. But it’s…well just began moving at this terrific
speed, and how it could dive into the water and surface again it just quite
puzzling to me.
RG – Yes. Did you see any surface features or openings
or lights or anything on this object?
WI – No. It was a light gray color, kind of a
white-grayish color, and I saw no openings on it. Of course it was… it’s
about… from my home across to the other side is probably about two miles.
RG – I see.
WI – So I couldn’t see any windows or anything if there
was, such a thing in it.
RG – No electrical interference in your area that you
WI – Well I didn’t notice any at the time, I didn’t
have the radio on or anything. Although… Oh… you talked about discussion. A
friend of mine, she said that compared to before that there were some other
sightings around the Narrows
Bridge. Now I didn’t… I
don’t know if ???? saw or not people said that… friends of mine said that
radio communications… they couldn’t… they couldn’t get the radios to work for
about ten minutes
RG – Yes. We heard about that report.
WI – Yeah
RG – Yes that was another very large object
WI – Yeah, ah-ha. And that was the next day I believe,
after this happened… what I saw. See…then it was…Oh well… Oh my wife said that was just after
Christmas. I might have that mixed up, I think. But what I saw, I know I saw
and it was there. It was no… ah imagination because I’m not the type to
imagine things, I’ve been a pilot for 40 some years, 46…48 years, and commercial
pilot and I flew for the Air Force during world war two, and I’ve logged
70,000 hours during the war, and I haven’t logged… I haven’t paid attention
to the hours I’ve had since then or before then even. I’ve been flying many
years and I’ve never seen anything like this before.
RG – I’d say you were a highly qualified observer then.
WI – Well… I would say I am. Yes.
RG – I wonder if I can get your address?
WI – It’s just Anderson Island.
RG – Just Anderson
WI – Yeah…98303
RG – I’m like to leave our telephone number with you,
in the event that you see anything in the future, or hear of anything being
WI – Well I of course… unfortunately were leaving… in
fact were leaving the island tomorrow. Were going into Seattle for a
couple of days to get my income tax figured. And were leaving for Mexico and
we’ll be gone three months
RG – Well I sure hope you have a fine trip.
WI – Thank you. I don’t think I’ll see anything between
now and then although I’ll be looking.
RG – Well, that’s fine.
WI – Yes. Well now what’s your name?
RG – Bob
WI – Well I’ll certainly keep this on file, and if I
see anything after I get back or before, I’ll will get in touch with you.
RG – Thank you very much for your time.
WI – Thank you Bob.
And I wish we knew what this was.
RG – Ok. Me too.
WI – Thank you.
RG – Thanks again
WI – Good bye
This reference: Interview with UFO researcher Robert Gribble.
With Thanks to Wendy
Connors of Faded Discs at: http://www.fadeddiscs.com for providing
me with the case.
Note 1: Lewis
reservation = Fort Lewis Military Reservation –CF-
UFOCAT PRN – NONE
North America – United
Anderson Island Latitude 47-09-36 N, Longitude
122-42-18 W (D-M-S)
Island Latitude 47-09-24 N, Longitude
Fort Lewis Latitude 47-03-42 N,
Longitude 122-34-59 W
Cemetery – approximate
center of the base]
Nisqually Flats Latitude
47-06-17 N, Longitude 122-42-15 W
47-05-49 N, Longitude 122-37-48 W
47-16-52 N, Longitude 122-32-32 W
This is the channel coordinate and the bridge is
slightly south of this. –CF-
Note: If his house was facing due south as the
interviewer had interpreted the meaning of “south”, the witness could not
have seen Ketron Island (Northeast from Cole Point).
So the actual direction in order to see at least a part of the island would
be South-Southeast, which is also the direction of the line of sight from Cole point to Dupont (roughly 150 degrees). –CF-
On the topographical map above, the small black dots
represent houses. Of these only two, on the southwestern side could look
directly at Dupont. So I used the center point between them to construct a
protractor view of his view for both the due south and what I believe is a
more correct direction of S-SE. The distance from shore to shore is
approximately 1.75 miles.
nautical map it can be seen (not here due to size) that the object had enough
room to clear the bottom by a wide margin. The smallest depth is 23 fathoms
and the greatest is 67 fathoms (138 to 402 feet respectively).
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Robert Gribble's work by researcher Wendy Connors.-CF-
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