Witness says UFO came out of water
MUFON investigator Robert D. Neville has submitted the following account of his interview with Frank S. Kinsey, conducted Nov. 3, 1973:
It... "was about ten years ago," (circa 1964) Mr. Kinsey begins. “It was down behind the hills in Ventura, Ca., where the government put in a new dam up there." (Casitas Dam) "It was a drizzly day--cloudy." He estimated the time of day as 11 a.m. “My brother-in-law took me up there. We were standing there, chatting for about ten or fifteen minutes, and then, all of a sudden, I heard sort of a loud noise and water splashing, and I looked out into the lake and here's this object coming out of the water.
"I was so flabbergasted... I was speechless to think I could see something like that which I've never seen before...And it was a round object and it looked like it had a cone on top where a person was looking out at us. I had a camera around my neck, but I completely forgot the camera due to the fact that I was so astounded to see something like this coming up out of the water. It came out of the water, I'd say about twenty or thirty feet, and hovered … By that time, my brother-in-law and I got to talking and.., I happened to remember that I had my camera...and just as I was getting the camera up to my eyes, this object started moving away, and I just barely got it near the edge of the film; then, within a few seconds, it disappeared out over the mountains…I'd say about ten or fifteen miles away.
“...As it was speeding up, it started changing colors, from a real dark lavender color up to a real bright orange-yellow, and that's the last I saw of it.”
Describing the object in more detail, Mr. Kinsey added that the main body was cylindrical in shape, drum like, with the "observation cone on top" in which he saw windows or portholes. Mr. Kinsey noted that the object appeared to be about 20 or 30 feet in height, and that inside it "looked like a being looking out at us," a humanoid form. "I could see the eyes staring at us. I happened to have a pair of binoculars with me at the time. I picked them up and looked and could see a person looking out at me.
"It looked like it was a real thick, heavy glass of some kind, or maybe it might have been a plastic of some kind--you know, never seeing anything like that before.” Mr. Kinsey noted that the object or a portion of the object appeared to be rotating rapidly upon its axis. "What was moving on the object was the outside cylinder. It was turning around at a very high rate of speed...It made an awful loud noise like a jet taking off. The faster it turned, the louder the noise got…it was awful to the ears.
"The center part up on top that looked like (it had) portholes to it, that was absolutely still. The faster it turned (the more) it changed color, as though it were transparent and lights were going through it.
"When it came up out of the water, it was like a funnel sucking up water. It brought the water up with it due to the fact that it was whirling so fast.
"...It looked to me as though it were well insulated and well made...It had a gleam to it; it had a shine to it, like nothing I've ever seen. I've seen a lot of metals here on earth that had a high gloss, but nothing like this that I've ever seen.”
"I've kept my mouth shut all these years due the fact that people ridicule people..."
It should be noted that Mr. Kinsey was an Air Force pilot during World War II. He is a very respected member of the community and a very outspoken and direct individual. In this investigator's opinion, Mr. Kinsey's familiarity with conventional aircraft and his unquestioned honesty and sincerity provide this report with a high degree of credibility in spite of its very unusual content.
The only other known witness to the sighting (Mr. Kinsey's brother-in-law) is now deceased.
The above photo was taken of a UFO (object in upper left) after the object came out of the water near Casitas Dam, according to the witness and photographer, Frank S. Kinsey. The photo, which was taken about ten years ago and revealed only recently, was reportedly taken on infrared film using a Super D Topcon 35mm camera with a 33mm 2.8 wide-angle lens set at f/8. The shutter was set at 1/25. This photo is currently being analyzed by MUFON consultant Adrian Vance for authenticity. Results of this analysis will be published when received.
This reference: Skylook (the original MUFON Journal), September 1974, p. 8
UFOCAT PRN – 81787 [DOS: ??-??-1964]
UFOCAT URN – 081787 Ted Bloecher investigation files, November 1973
UFOCAT URN – NONE Skylook (the original MUFON Journal), September 1974, p. 8
UFOCAT URN – NONE Unexplained Mysteries of the 20th Century by Janet and Colin Bord,
pp. 176-7, published 1989
UFOCAT URN – 115693 HUMCAT: Catalogue of Humanoid Reports, A0580 by D. Webb, no ©date
North America – United States, California
Ventura Latitude 34-17 N, Longitude 119-18 W (D-M)
Casitas Dam Latitude 34-22 N, Longitude 119-20 W
Reference: The National Gazetteer of the United States of America, prepared by the U.S. Geological Survey in cooperation with the U.S. Board on Geographic Names, Washington, D.C., 1990
Construction of Casitas Dam began in July 1956 and was completed in March 1959.
UFO Location (UFOCAT) 34.36 N, Longitude 119.32 W (D.%)