Go Back Report # 160
07-20-1958

07-20-1958  

From Project Blue Book files    

PROJECT 10073 RECORD CARD

1. DATE                                    2. LOCATION                                        12. CONCLUSIONS

      20 Jul 58                                4 Miles North of Glennie, Michigan       Other Disturbance

3. DATE-TIME GROUP               4. TYPE OF OBSERVATION

    Local (Blank)                            In Water

    GMT 20/1900Z

5. PHOTOS:                              6. SOURCE

            No                                     Civilian

7. LENGTH OF OBSERVATION   8. NUMBER OF OBJECTS           9. COURSE

            1 ½ Minutes                            one                                   not known

10. BRIEF SUMMARY OF SIGHTING                                          11. COMMENTS

      An object hit water, made a circle 10                                    Not falling within definition of

      ft across w/foam on edge of circle                                                 UFO.

      2-3 ft high. Object sizzled as if hot,

      sizzling lasted 1-½ minutes. The loud

      sound as it hit was heard two yards

      away. Object took zig-zagging course

      across lake surface for 200 ft,

      making violent movement in the water.

      Obj sank into 50ft of water as

      circling died out.

ATIC FORM 329 (Rev 26 Sep 52)

Other facts brought out from telex:    

B. (1) THE LOUD SOUND AS IT HIT THE LAKE WAS HEARD TWO YARDS AWAY PD

... (2) ON LAKE SURFACE 170 DEGREES

    (3) ON LAKE SURFACE 180 DEGREES.

E. 4435N 8345W. FOUR MILES WEST OF ROUTE M-65 AND FOUR MILES NORTH OF CLENNIE, MICHIGAN. ON A TWELVE ACRE PRIVATE LAKE WITH ONE OBSERVER IN BOAT AND ONE ON THE BANK OF THE LAKE AND ONE TWO HUNDRED YARDS AWAY.

F. [BLACKED OUT NAME] RANCH LAKE RESORT OWNER CLENNIE, MICHIGAN PROBABLY RELIABLE [BLACKED OUT NAME] COIAHOGA FALLS, OHIO VACATIONER SUNNY RANCH LAKE RELIABILITY UNKNOWN [BLACKED OUT NAME] CLENNIE MICHIGAN RELIABILITY UNKNOWN PD

G.(1)    CLEAR. (Appears to apply to weather-CF-)

   (2)     SURFACE 110 DEGREES 11 KTS 10,000 FT 245 DEGREES 15 KTS

   (3)     3500 FT.

   (4)     15 MILES.

   (5)     SCATTERED.

   (6)     NEGATIVE.

K.         2ND LT. JOHN B. MCKINNON 445TH FINCEPTRON INTELLIGENCE OFFICER. OBSERVERS COMMENT SOUNDED AS IS (SIC) SOMETHING HOT HIT THE WATER AND THE COOLING CAUSED THE SIZZLING. WEATHER BALLOONS FROM GREENBAY, WISCONSIN AND MILWAKEE (SIC), WISCONSIN HAVE BEEN RECOVERED IN THIS AREA AND COULD IF STILL CONTAINING AIR MAKE SUCH MOVEMENTS IN THE WATER. A SMALL HOT METEORITE MIGHT ALSO CAUSE A DISTURBANCE. THE DEPTH OF THE WATER PREVENTED A RECOVERY OF THE OBJECT SIGHTED. NOTE HANDWRITTEN ON PAPER –WITHOUT IDENTIFICATION: CONCUR WITH ABOVE, BUT WOULD LIKE SOMETHING MORE CONCRETE AS TO THE ACTUAL OR PROBABLE IDENTITY OF THE OBJECT THAT HIT THE WATER.

DD FORM 173 JOINT MESSAGE FORM AUG. 04, 1958 0900.        

FROM: COMDR, ATIC.

TO: COMMANDER, 412TH FIGHTER GP, WURTSMITH AFB, MICH.

INFO: COMMANDER, 1006TH AISS ENT AFB, COLORADO SPRINGS, COLO.

UNCLASSIFIED/FROM AFCIN-4E4

RE ALLEGED OBJECT SEEN BENEATH SURFACE OF WATER, SIZZLING AND LEAVING FOAM IN WAKE THREE FEET HIGH OBSERVED BY THREE WIDELY SEPARATED OBSERVERS. REPORT IMPLIES LARGE EXPLOSION OR THUD HEARD JUST BEFORE OBJECT HIT WATER AND ZIG-ZAGGED ACROSS LAKE SURFACE FOR 200 FEET. THIS MESSAGE IN 2 PARTS. PART 1: REQUEST FOR DETERMINATION IF OBJECT ACTUALLY UFO WITHIN MEANING OF AFR 200-2. PART 2. REQUEST FOR OFFICIAL INVESTIGATION AND TO PROVIDE SOME BASIC GUIDANCE TO ASSIST IN THIS MATTER IF OBJECT DETERMINED TO BE VALID UFO.

PART 1: A. NOWHERE IN THE REPORT IS THERE ANY INDICATION THAT THE OBJECT WAS ACTUALLY SEEN IN THE AIR OR APPROACHING FROM THE AIR BEFORE IT HIT THE WATER: REPORT BEGINS WITH STATEMENT OBJECT WAS FIRST OBSERVED IN THE WATER. B. IF OBJECT OBSERVED EVEN FOR A BRIEF INSTANT ITS GENERAL SIZE, SHAPE, APPEARANCE AND OTHER CHARACTERISTICS MUST HAVE BEEN OBSERVED. NOTHING GIVEN UNDER THIS REQUIREMENT IN YOUR REPORT ALTHOUGH PHENOMENON OBSERVED FOR ALMOST 2 MINUTES. HIGHLY IMPROBABLE THAT THE THREE OBSERVERS IN THE AREA WOULD ALL HAVE HAD THEIR BACKS TURNED TO THE OBJECT AS IT DESCENDED FROM THE SKY. C. IF OBJECT DID NOT COME OUT OF THE AIR AND ONLY AN UNDERWATER COMMOTION WAS OBSERVED, SUCH AS MIGHT BE CAUSED BY AN UNDERGROUND FISSURE, PRESSURE OR OTHER CAUSE THEN OBJECT ???? A UFO AND THEREFORE NOT SUBJECT OF A REPORT UNDER AFR 200-2. IF SO MUST BE CONSIDERED A UWO (UNIDENTIFIED UNDER WATER OBJECT). PART TWO: A. IF DETERMINED OBJECT VALID UFO, REQUEST INVESTIGATION OF INCIDENT WITH THE VIEW OF DETERMINING CAUSE IN ACCORDANCE WITH PARAGRAPH 4B AND PARAGRAPH 6B, AFR 200-2. B. REQUEST PARAGRAPH 5, THIS REGULATION, BE REVIEWED WITH VIEW TO ASSISTING IN THIS MATTER. C. REQUEST YOUR FINDINGS BE PREPARED ON STANDARD INTELLIGENCE REPORT AF FM 112. D SOME BASIC CLUES IN GUIDANCE TO ASSIST IN THIS MATTER: TRIANGULATION INDICATES THAT INCIDENT TOOK PLACE JUST OUTSIDE NORTHEAST CORNER OF AF RESTRICTED AREA R-81 AND WEST OF RESTRICTED AREA R-91 WHICH ARE USED EXCLUSIVELY BY YOUR BASE FOR AERIAL BOMBING AND GUNNERY. ALSO TWO OTHER RESTRICTED AREAS WEST AND NORTHWEST OF UFO LOCATION USED FOR AERIAL TRAINING AND EXERCISES. [NEXT SENTENCE IS LINED OUT] THAT PARTLY INFLATED BALLOON IMME (SIC) SUBMERGING UNDER WATER UPON IMPACT NOT CONSIDERED VALID. HOWEVER, POSSIBLE FOR ANY NUMBER OF ARMAMENT AND ORDINANCE ITEMS TO HAVE DROPPED OR ACCIDENTALLY DETACHED FROM AIRCRAFT AND FALLING INTO WATER. FOR EXAMPLE, SEMI-DUD BOMB THAT COULD HAVE EXPLODED UNDER WATER OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF PRESSURE DEVICES HEAVY ENOUGH TO SUBMERGE POSSIBLY AN INVESTIGATION MIGHT FIRST BE MADE WITH PILOTS AND AIRCREWS OF YOUR BASE. IF FEASIBLE TO ATTEMPT TO RECOVER OBJECT BY DREDGING OR OTHER MEANS DESIRABLE THAT YOU DO SO. AGAIN, ACTION REQUESTED IN THIS PART ONLY IF OBJECT DETERMINED TO BE UFO.

COORDINATION:

AFCIN-4E4 Dr. Miley,     AFCIN-4E Col. Gilbert,     AFCIN-4X1 Mr. Arcier

AF FORM 112 – Air Intelligence Information Report

Activity Submitting Report: 412th Fighter Group, Wurtsmith AFB, Oscoda, Michigan.

Date of Report 13 Aug. 1958. Preparing Individual:  John B. McKinnon, 1/Lt, USAF

       1. Purported object was never seen in the air so would not come under definition of “UFO”, although the observer thought the object came from the air.

       2. Description of reported object cannot be given because it was below the surface of the water at all times. The commotion in the water caused by the object was all that was seen.

       3. Previous checks indicate restricted area AF-R-81 was not in use on the date of sighting and there were no reports of lost armament or aircraft assembly on same date.

       4. The observer neither heard nor saw any aircraft activity in the area within a two hour period of the sighting.

Handwritten Note: 2. Close case – other /not UFO. Comment: some underwater disturbance or commotion, caused by reasons unknown.      

Distribution by originator: Commander, Air Technical Intelligence Center, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio.                                                                                                      

This reference: Unclassified US Air Force documents as shown above.

     With thanks to my fellow researcher who does not wish to have his name publicized.

Thoughts: (by CF):      

1. From the Project 10073 Record Card, it is stated that the sound was heard 2 yards away. This is six feet! I would imagine that a pebble at this distance could have been heard. However, in the telex paragraph “E,” the distance to an observer is given as 2 HUNDRED yards. This would make more sense than the 2 yards. Of course, the number 200 is also the distance traveled by the object in feet, so is one being confused with the other?       

2. From telex: “Weather balloons from Greenbay, Wisconsin and Milwaukee, Wisconsin have been recovered in this area and could, if still containing air, make such movements in the water.” And yet from DD form 173, we get the crossed out statement, “That partly inflated balloon imme (sic) submerging underwater upon impact not considered valid.”  Change the fact to fit the conclusion?   

3. From DD form 173 “Part 1: A. Nowhere in the report is there any indication that the object was actually seen in the air or approaching from the air before it hit the water,” and yet one explanation is, “However, possible for any number of armament and ordinance items to have dropped or accidentally detached from aircraft and falling into water.” Do these weapons enter the water by some other means than through the air? In any event, Paragraph 3 and 4 of AF FORM 112 puts the entire ordnance/aircraft parts issue to rest.        

4. In defense of the UFO hypothesis, the witnesses only heard the impact – not the approach. UFOs are known for their relative silence; can this be said for an artillery shell or descending aircraft part whistling in the air?         

5. From DD form 173, “If object did not come out of the air and only an underwater commotion was observed, such as might be caused by an underground fissure, pressure or other cause”. An active fissure should have registered seismically?  Not investigated?                   

UFOCAT PRN – 31184

UFOCAT URN – 31184 Project Blue Book (files counted in official statistics), date of publication

                                        February 1951        

North America – United States, Michigan

Glennie, Michigan         Latitude 44-33-38 N, Longitude 83-43-33 W (D-M-S)

Clennie, Michigan         Unable to locate and was probably a misspelling of Glennie (above)-CF-

Greenbay, Wisconsin   Latitude 44-30-48 N, Longitude 88-00-48 W

Milwakee, Wisconsin    Misspelling of Milwaukee

Milwaukee, Wisconsin  Latitude 43-02-20 N, Longitude 87-54-23 W

Oscoda, Michigan         Latitude 44-25-13 N, Longitude 83-19-51 W

Reference: The National Gazetteer of the United States of America, prepared by the U.S. Geological Survey in cooperation with the U.S. Board on Geographic Names, Washington, D.C., 1990   

Coiahoga Falls, Ohio    Unable to locate. Google gave the alternate as Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio-CF-

Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio   Latitude 41-08 N, Longitude 81-29 W (D-M)

http://www.astro.com/cgi-bin/atlw3/aq.cgi?country_list=&expr=cuyahoga+falls&lang=e


 



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