OK … UFOs go in and out
of water. Why? … We really don’t know. All we have is speculation. Of course,
there is no reason for us to want to have a craft that can emulate them …
right? I mean aircraft do aircraft things and submarines do their thing … what
need for yet another expensive piece of machinery for warfare? Avoidance of
radar and visual sightings? Well it seems that not only was it thought of, but
the idea was funded (see news clip) as well.
Think the Navy might be interested in those
things that don’t exist????
AP Wire photo
Navy weighs sub-plane
This drawing by the
Convair Division of General Dynamics Corp. In
This reference: The Wilmington (
$$$$ and a dream $$$$
WASHINGTON (AP) The Navy wants to develop a flying
The idea is for a smallish craft capable of flying to and submerging for operations in relatively closed waters.
In event of war with
The thought of a flying submarine is one, which has been kicked around in the Navy off and on for a good many years. But this time it has gone further than talk. A contract for analytical and design studies has been given to the Convair and Electric Boat Divisions of General Dynamics Corp.
The $36,000 contract sets no time limit. But the Navy says the study should be completed by next June.
Any actual construction--if it ever comes off--might well be many years in the future.
Eugene H. Handler, an aircraft hydrodynamics engineer with the Bureau of Naval Weapons; discusses the problems in an article in a recent issue of the magazine "U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings," a semiofficial publication.
“The development of a practical flying submarine prototype will be both complex and laborious, but the potential returns are substantial and valuable.
Consequently the concept of such a vehicle merits careful engineering examination rather than the overly optimistic accolade of a few imaginative enthusiasts and the simultaneous cold shoulder denial of the hard headed realist."
In his article, Handler writes of a possible craft with an operating depth of 25 to 75 feet, a submerged speed of five to 10 knots for four to 10 hours, airspeed of 150 to 225 knots for two or three hours and a payload of 500 to 1,500 pounds. He says it is believed these characteristics can be attained within a vehicle weighing 12,000 to 15,000 pounds.
The Japanese used midget submarines, though
not with particular success, in combination with their air attack on
The Italians carred
(sic) out a highly damaging raid in that same month with midget
submarines against British battleships in .the Mediterranean
Those World War II craft, however, provided little hope for anything except a suicide mission.
A little flying sub might carry out its mission and take its crew back.
"It could," Handler
says, fly from a favorable location to its destination at minimum altitude to
avoid detection by radar. At the completion of its underwater mission it could
travel as a submersible to a location best suited for takeoff, become airborne
and return to base.”
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THE FLYING SUBMARINE
During World War II, midget submarines were used extensively and often quite successfully by the British, Italian, German, and Japanese navies. These craft ranged from miniaturized versions of conventional submarines to modified torpedoes fitted with seats and controls for a two-man crew.
Because their primary mission was the destruction of ships in harbors, most of these craft had a relatively slow operating speed. Their other major limitation was a lack of range, and it was usually necessary to tow or carry them most of the distance to their objective and then retrieve them after their mission was accomplished.
because of these limitations and the difficulty of recovery in enemy-controlled
waters, the midget submarines were abandoned after accomplishment of their
mission and the crews were either lost or captured. Thus, a report on the
success (or failure) of the mission was not relayed back to the command in time
to capitalize on the submarines' operation. This situation occurred on
The most needed improvements for the midget submarine appear to be increases in cruise speed and radius so that the submarine is able to return from missions without immediate assistance from other craft. The very low speeds required during attack were usually adequate. In fact, low speed and high maneuverability coupled with the ability to operate with the utmost of stealth are the prerequisites of a successful midget.
usefulness of a weapon depends upon the type of warfare needed to combat the
enemy. In the event of war, the Soviet Fleet is intended to destroy lines of
communication and supply to our allies and to attack our territory with
submarine-launched missiles. Our Navy's primary tasks are to protect our lines
of communication and supply, to protect the country from enemy attack, to
provide carrier-based striking forces for use against attacks on the enemy
homeland, and to destroy enemy shipping. There is, however, a tremendous amount
of shipping in the Soviet-dominated Baltic Sea, the essentially land-locked
Black Sea, the Sea of Azov, and the truly inland
Since it is probable that no conventional undersea craft would be able to enter inland waters such as those previously mentioned, it is necessary to develop a new concept of weapons delivery. It has been suggested that large seaplanes could carry midget submarines to their destination and later return to take them on board for return to friendly territory. However, the inherent disadvantages make this method impractical. A seaplane capable of carrying a small submarine would probably weigh a half million pounds or more, be prohibitively expensive, and be a conspicuous and desirable target for the enemy's air-defense systems. The possibility of success in retrieving the submarine would appear to be hopelessly small.
An air-towed midget submarine has many attractive features for such a role: detachable aerodynamic surfaces could be dropped after alighting, leaving a conventional small submarine to carry out an operation; there would be no need for in-flight power; and the tow plane could carry out its own diversion mission to protect the submarine. Such a weapon would have one serious disadvantage: being expendable, the undersea craft's crew would be faced with the demoralizing propositions of surrender or attempting to go through aroused enemy lines to reach friendly soil. If the wings were retained, the consideration could be given to a second flight by the tow plane in an effort to pick up the submarine; but again, the chance of success would appear to be slight.
Another alternative, a true flying submarine, offers more promise than either of the above methods. It could fly from a favorable location to its destination at minimum altitude to avoid detection by radar. At the completion of its underwater mission it could travel as a submersible to a location best suited for takeoff, become airborne and return to base.
There are many alternate approaches to the design of a flying submarine, as has been made evident by the numerous proposals of recent years by reputable engineers. The basic mission and the requirement for compatibility of aerodynamic and hydrodynamic characteristics require that the performance of practical vehicles be rigorously limited to minimum aircraft and submarine capabilities. Size, speed in air and water, submergence depth, and payload must all be realistically established prior to serious consideration of any preliminary design. Each capability taken separately is extremely modest. It is the combination of these capabilities into a single craft, which provides a remarkable vehicle.
The preceding discussion of proposed useful missions envisions an operating depth of about 25 to 75 feet, submerged speed of five to ten knots for four to ten hours, airspeed of 150 to 225 knots for two to three hours, and a payload of 500 to 1,500 pounds. It is believed these characteristics can be attained within, a vehicle weighing only 12,000 to 15,000 pounds. The Bureau of Naval Weapons has recently awarded a contract to the Convair and Electric Boat Divisions of General Dynamics for analytical and design studies of the essential components and operational aspects of such a vehicle.
When an operating vehicle has been developed capable of achieving these moderate goals it will then be time to consider a more versatile successor.
There are obviously basic design problems involved in any concept of a flying submarine no matter how modest its capabilities. The basic problem is suggested by the very term "flying submarine." The vehicle's density must be comparable with that of conventional aircraft of roughly equivalent performance, yet must be susceptible of increase to that required for operation in its alternate medium, water, in order to submerge, cruise, and hover beneath the surface with minimum power. The cockpit, engines, instrumentation, fuel, batteries or electrical power-generating fuel cells, electric motor, etc., must all be watertight. All other spaces would be floodable to minimize the inherent buoyancy, and consequently need not withstand the static pressures encountered during the vehicle's submerged operation.
The aircraft engine requires only moderate modification for effective waterproofing while retaining a self-starting capability after completion of the submerged phase of the mission. Both intakes and exhausts would be placed above the static water line. The intakes would also be located out of the spray pattern of the planing hull or hydro-skis, as is the case with any conventional seaplane. Electric torpedo powerplants would furnish extensive background datum for the alternate propulsion system. The battery-charging equipment would be far less elaborate than in conventional submarines, if batteries were chosen in preference to fuel cells. With the latter, no charging equipment would be necessary.
There remain numerous problems inherent in the various systems and components required in the flying submarine. Most, if not all, appear to be capable of solution through the application of existing techniques and engineering practices. These problems can generally be divided into six classifications: buoyancy, stability and control in both media, vehicle habitability and crew survival, structural considerations, availability of equipment, and the parameters of design and operation.
The first of these areas, buoyancy, With its directly related yet opposed requirement for high density, covers numerous items such as ballast tanks and their flooding and purging systems, and fore-and-aft fuel transfer to maintain longitudinal stability in flight and in the sea. The second, stability and control, requires investigation of a single system to operate in both media; the best aerodynamic / hydrodynamic configuration--i.e., a comparison of the merits of a conventional arrangement, delta wing with and without tail, canard, cruciform, etc.; take-off and alighting technique conventional versus vertical; and placement of surfaces for satisfactory maneuvering and diving from the surfaced condition. Habitability and survival problems require primarily the combination of systems already in existence in submarines, high altitude aircraft, and man-carrying satellites, with emphasis upon canopy design, provision of air supply and purification during submerged operations, and emergency escape for both submerged and in-flight conditions. Structural considerations require the determination of dynamic loads in flight and submerged conditions as well as the static loads imposed by deep submergence. Materials must be selected to avoid damage resulting from corrosion and galvanic action. The equipment associated with the aeronautical, electrical, naval and associated industries must be surveyed to establish the availability of items required in the prototype submarine as well as to list those components requiring development for this unique craft of design and operational parameters requires the derivation of interrelationships between equipment weight; air cruising speed and range; water cruising speed, range and maximum depth, and vehicle weight.
The development of a practical flying submarine prototype will be both complex and laborious, but the potential returns are substantial and valuable. Consequently the concept of such a vehicle merits careful engineering examination rather than the overly optimistic accolade of a few imaginative enthusiasts and the simultaneous cold-shoulder denial of the hard-headed realist.
reference: U. S. Naval Institute Proceedings, September 1964, “THE FLYING
SUBMARINE”, pp. 144-146, by Eugene H. Handler, Aircraft Hydrodynamics Engineer,
Airframe Design Division, Bureau of Naval Weapons